Showing posts with label collections. Show all posts
Showing posts with label collections. Show all posts

Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Negotiating your debt

Alright so I'm hanging out here on my vacation on the beautiful sands of Hawaii and I'm reading this great finance book called "i will teach you to be rich" by ramit sethi. I highly recommend this book to the younger readers because he really puts things into perspective and breaks it down for us to understand.
I have 1 problem with these finance books (other then them bashing on financial advisers)...they talk about paying off your credit cards like its a simple thing. Hells no it isnt...here's the problem...what if your in debt up to your ears and can even afford to pay for the monthly payments? If you're having problems paying off your debt here is a possible option. Settle you debt.

Alright, so in an earlier article I wrote about what to do to avoid those collections calls. Truth is your going to eventually have to pay them back (unless you want to wait 5 years statute of limitations). So here's in a nut shell to do what my partners and I charge people a good amount of money to do. Yes I'm throwing all I know out there for free...no buy my book no subscribe gimmick. I truly believe knowledge should be shared free of charge, services on applying the knowledge comes at a price. Negotiating is tough when you have a personal attachment to the settlement, and that's where experts come in. And that's why I like selling my services as a financial advisor, because we aren't going to get emotional about your money...so f you Ramit! Just kidding .

Ok so theres a few steps your going to need to do to negotiate your own debt. First, your best chances of a good settlement will come from if you can pay the debt in a lump sum. Payments will work, but spread over time they will expect more money. So when you are prepared to settle, make sure you have funds in hand. Borrow from someone if you don't have it. Ask your parents...just man up and tell them if you haven't, it will save you a lot of gray hairs in the future.

The next thing you need to have is a VALID hardship, yes I repeat a valid hardship. Heres the trick...don't make shit up people, if you get caught your committing perjury and thats worse then being in debt and they wont work with you anyways. But honestly, they arent going to hire Sherlock Holmes to check out your story. So I recommending taking a moment and truly figure a good story on why you couldn't pay your debt...then Hollywood it. Make it sound worse then what it was, make them cry...shit if you can keep a straight face cry while your telling it to them lol just,kidding...sort of.

So once you have these two in place you can get ready to call the collections agencies. They probably have been trying to reach you at this point and have,sent letters to you saying they are willing to settle for x percent of what you owe (which is usually around 70%). When you call the number on the letter pretend like you never saw that settlement. They will first ask you for a case number, give it to them and expect to be transfer to a negotiator. Heres where people get scared and where the experts have fun. They are going to ask what you want to do. You should reply with a "i would like to settle this account". They are at some point going to ask you why you couldnt pay your debt, at this point go on with the sob story (although they dont give a crap). After you do that, tell them you want to settle for less then whats owed. Just like any negotiation tactic, start low and eventually meet in the middle. I would suggest starting off at 10% of what you owe (if you owe 10k then your offering 1k). They would prob laugh and counter with something much higher like whatever they sent you in the mail. Tell them you can borrow the money and can do something like 20% of the balance. Negotiations will go back and forth and usual settlements are around 40% of the balance. If they dont budge, politely tell them you cant do that, hang up and call back in a couple months. Dont get frustrated, its part of the games.

Heres a few tips. The longer you have had the account in collections the more willing they are to settle and at a lower balance. Theres a statute of limitations for debt. Once you get sent to a collections agency, they have 5 years to collect from you or its wiped out. Also, never pay the agency until you get the agreed settlement on amount in writing. Remember the harassment collection calls you logged from reading the "how to avoid those collections calls" article? Well you can use them in the negotiations when things get heated. Warning, dont come out the gates guns blazing, that will piss them off. You want to act as naive as possible, and progressively bring up some laws if the conversation gets more heated, and if your lucky you wont even have,to pull out those tricks. When I was new to negotiating debt, before I knew any of this I spoke to the sweetest lady to resolve a discover card settlement. She helped me settle at 30% of the balance and had an email already sent to me before the convo was done. I didntThats because any money creditors get back is like icing on the cake. When you stopped paying they already wrote you off on their losses, but when you pay its like you finding money in those jeans you havent worn in forever.

Alright I know this is a lot of info and can be intimidating...if you eventually decided to hire a debt settlement agency heres some tips to not get scammed (or you can ask me). A good agency will give you different options of paying. They will either charge you the percent of what they saved you (my pick), which should be more then if they charge you an up front but it ensures results. Or if you feel the trust you can do a up front fee, but make sure they dont charge both. Second never let them hold your money! This is most important. You should have money set aside ready for settlement, but they should never be asking to hold it. If they do, walk away. A good settlement company will tell you what they came to agreements on and pay the creditors a certain amount.

Alright, thats all I got to say. Happy negotiating guys!

Friday, May 27, 2011

Dealing with those damn collections calls

Alright lets face it. The economy sucks and just about everyone is in debt. Statistics show that about 50% of credit cards are going into default because we simply just cant pay for them. There's no freaking jobs open and well...we spend too much. I know for a fact that I wouldn't be able to keep up with my spending habits (or drinking habits) if I didn't have my business lol. So here we go, lets talk about that skeleton in the closet that you have....
 
First off...I have to give a few disclaimers. "I am not a lawyer. I am not giving legal advice. Please consult an attorney if you have any pending litigation. Please seek legal advice if you are considering bankruptcy". Second, this is a piece for people that have unsecured debt and cannot keep up with the monthly payment because a legitimate hardship. I AM NOT telling you to stop paying for your shit people...and I would highly recommend against doing so because its a hard freaking climb to bring your score back up...trust me. Lastly, again I am not writing this as legal advice! If you owe money...and collections agencies are bugging the crap out of you, this is simply what I would do *wink* *wink*. If you choose to *do what I would do* then follow these steps precisely to make a credit restoration company's job (like mine) easier and save you a ton of money in the end.

So I'm going to tell you a little make belief story about my buddy...um Elvis. Shout out to my cousin Elf! For the people that know him, no he doesn't owe creditors money...just me...freaking asshole. Anyways so Elvis goes off to college and for the first time and is free to experience the world unfiltered. He moves out of his parents place and finds a nice little place to rent in the hood close to school because rent is cheap. Like many college kids in his same situation, Elf has a lot of new things to deal with that he hasn't ever had pay for before: rent, food, groceries, the bar. Yes...Elf has a part time job at my favorite little sandwich place La Metro (french for Subway), but he hasn't gotten the hang of budgeting yet and goes out of control with spending because evil credit card agencies keep sending him offers in the mail...and he accepts the offer to borrow money with the promise to pay them back...evil credit card agencies :-p.

Alright now here comes the interesting part of the story. Elf decides to say "F*** you credit cards"! He stops paying his monthly bill. After his first missed payment the credit card agencies start to get nervous and give him a call to see if maybe he forgot...but no answer. After 3 months of missed payments the credit card company realizes this little bastard isn't going to pay and starts calling him off the hook! The next thing they are going to do is sell his balance over to a collection company, usually a law firm, to bug him until he coughs up the money.

This collection company starts to call him non stop! They leave 2 or 3 voice messages a day because they think Elf doesn't know the rules of the Fair Debt Collections Act where they cant do that...because nobody knows their rights in this great free country right?

Elf is enjoying his life no worries because he found out of a little FREE service called Google Voice....damn I love google. Anyways, Elf signs up for google voice and uses his same number that hes been using for years. He sets his google voice to direct calls from specific numbers (like those 877 and 800 numbers) to go directly to his voice mail and they get logged.

After a few months and his credit is shot...he decides he wants to start to get serious about his finances and wants to see what he can do about his credit. So Elf goes to his extremely tall and hansom, super smart cousin "Quang" (lmao I had to do it!) for advice. Q tells Elf that he is going to need to pay off his debts owed on these cards, but what he can do is settle for less than what is owed on the cards. Since Elf has a log of times he received a voice message more then once in a day...Q has more negotiating power because that's considered a form of harassment and the company can be fined for every instance.

After some negotiation, Elf and the collection company agree to do a lump sum payment for less then half of what he originally owed. The next step he did was to go to a credit repair company to dispute the validity of how these bad remarks on his credit were reported. We will go over that in another blog.

Hope you guys learned some valuable pieces of info from this story to apply to your situation. Till next time!

PS. If your getting calls to your work number because they somehow got a hold of it. They should know that they are allowed to call once...and only once to your place of work to attempt to collect. But they aren't going to stop unless they know that you know.